Well, I left the management business alone after that.
Not sure what the problem is, but as she says, not my business. So we moved on. The next time I saw her we talked about other things.
She had just returned from an overseas trip, so I asked about that. Jillian travels a lot and mostly by herself. She reckons men get it easier than women and are not generally worth the trouble anyway. I left that comment – wisely I reckon, and forged ahead.
We kept a record of her and my travels and we were equal for a while, but then my circumstances changed and she surged ahead.
Can't remember now, how many countries she had visited at the time of this conversation, but the list contained the following:
Vanuatu, Fiji, Samoa (both varieties), New Caledonia, India, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand (3 or 4 times), Burma, England, Egypt, a couple of places in the middle east – Iraq and Iran I think, Scotland, Ireland, Greece – Athens, Mykonos and Santorini to name a few Greece spots – chasing sun, relaxation and men I'd guess, maybe not in that order – and perhaps not always Jillian doing the chasing; France, Italy (suffering a surfeit of wine, food and stuff like that), and a few other European places. I know there were many more, but that gives you an idea. Still nothing in South America and I know Russia is next on her list.
In case you think the 'men' comment above is a bit out of character, I have heard Jillian say that men were a bit like grandchildren: Great to pick up and play with; but even better to be able to give them back when you're finished. How she would have any idea about that I wouldn't know. The grandchildren bit I mean.
She's getting REALLY good at packing and travels light. Everything fits into one quite large backpack. Including the odd formal gown for those special evenings out with Celebrities or Heads of State, (my little joke), but there is apparently always room for something a little more upmarket than a swimsuit, short skirt, jeans, a top and flip flops (often called thongs; but my question is why would you wear underpants on your feet? No sensible answer for that yet! In NZ we called that kind of footwear Jandals).
Anyway. There are YouTube videos which feature other people showing us their methods of 'travel stuffing', but I reckon Jillian was the first.